Sunday, June 28, 2015

Discouraged (Warning - Poop Talk)

I was supposed to take Emi to a neat in-hand only horse show today, but she's experiencing a pretty significant bought of diarrhea. I've written before that she has chronic loose stool, but this is worse than normal. Tuesday night I was working her and she pooped. It looked great and very normal, but as the week progressed it became really runny and she has been gasey and squirting since Thursday. She seems to be feeling alright and is eating well. I took her temperature this morning and it was normal. I started her back on probiotics on Friday night so I'm hoping to start seeing some improvement.

I bathed her last night and was just starting to braid her mane and she pooped a big cowpie pile and was then squirting and I firmly decided she wasn't going to the show. I know for sure she didn't need additional stress to add to her current GI trouble.

They did have a hay change about 2 weeks ago but she was fine on the new hay for over a week. I have also started turning her out with out her grazing muzzle but the pasture is super dry and there's not a lot out there so I don't think that's the issue. My other two ideas were that maybe she is in heat and that's the problem or perhaps the actual heat (it has been in the high 90's here) has caused it?  This is by far the worst she has ever been I'm just not sure where to go from here.

I was readying a box of ulcergard yesterday which said that chronic, intermittent diarrhea is a sign of ulcers. I feel like they should be unlikely due to her management and living situation but maybe that's the problem. She's had a clear fecal check in the last couple of months so I don't believe it's parasites. She gets grass hay, pasture, and 1 cup of grain twice a day. So, any suggestions?

After finishing with her I decided to go ride Benny since it was finally cooling off. On my way to the barn I was feeling tempted to sell them all. Then I had a super duper late evening ride and I changed my mind. :) Benny's canter has come so far since I got him. The last two rides it has felt completely normal. I discovered that the quality of the trot prior to cantering has a direct impact on the quality of the canter. I know...I'm not sure why it has taken me that long to connect the dots but it's really true. To finish off our great ride I gave him a bath and called it a night. I'm so thankful to have such a fun horse to ride right now and I left the barn feeling much better than when I came.

21 comments:

  1. My mare gets looser stools when the weather is warmer, for whatever reason.

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  2. That's strange. I do know some horses that have pretty loose stool when it's really hot though so maybe that's it?

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  3. If you're worried about ulcers, Wilco has a liquid supplement that my vet recommended and I really like. It's U7 gastric aid. McKenna's done really well on it, stopped all signs of ulcers.

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    1. Thanks! I'll have to look in to it.

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  4. poor Emi - hope it' nothing serious! exciting about Benny's canter tho. one of these day's i'll figure out the 'quality trot leads to quality canter' thing too :)

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  5. I really can't imagine Emi having ulcers; she leads a pretty ideal, low-stress life. I could believe it's the heat; heat can cause all kinds of problems. Is she a big drinker? As in, a guzzler? What goes in must come out!

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    1. Thanks for the input. I agree with you on the ulcers but the thought crossed my mind. She is a pretty big drinker. I guess I just thought in the heat she could be using the extra water (like sweating it out) rather than pooping it out...

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  6. I was going to suggest probiotic but you sr already doing that... Can you just make it a normal thing that she gets everyday forever? Henry has been on smartcombo since I got him and it has s gut piece to it and (knock on wood) he's never gotten runny poop when other have.

    I also might be a little virus ...

    Hopefully she feels better asap!!

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    1. Yes, I think she needs probiotics....forever.

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  7. We struggled with this for almost 2 years with Lucy to no avail. Finally, my wonderful vet ran a full allergy panel on her (we were at a loss of other ideas) and to our surprise, my mare is allergic to a bunch of things, including, but not limited to, timothy, orchard, brome, apples, and soy. We switched her to a straight alfalfa diet and her GI issues were gone in two weeks. This was a mare who had been scoped for ulcers twice, been on probiotics, literally everything. Definitely food for thought.

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    1. Thanks for the input. Do you know what company you ran the allergy panel through?

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    2. I'd like to know that, too. Rick has said allergy panels aren't very helpful in horses, but I'm interested for Lance's sake.

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    3. I don't know specifically (it was over 5 years ago, although we have the paperwork at home somewhere), but my vet was able to do it and send it off. The results were fully comprehensive and listed her sensitivity on a scale of 1-400 (she's like a 350 on timothy, over a 300 to apples, etc). A lot of people don't think it's useful, or think the skin testing is better, but I think it varies with reaction type and what the allergen is. For us it was a game changer and worth every cent. Can't imagine the poor mare was very comfortable in the year preceding.

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    4. So you had a blood test and not a skin test done? If you could find out the what and where from your vet, I'd love to know and might get my husband to utilize it.

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    5. I wonder if it may be this one? http://www.acttallergy.com/equine-owner-information/

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    6. A lot of horses can be allergic to soy which is in just about every feed out there... might be worth trying an elimination diet... I'm sure you've figured this out by now, but wanted to mention it in case it helps someone else.

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  8. I think some horses just have to be on probiotics forever. Is she on straight probiotics, or a pre and probiotic both? They're not crazy expensive so it might be worth it. Tris gets them every day, no matter what, as part of his basic supplement package.

    I can't remember if this was a problem before her hospital stay. Sometimes antibiotics can mess with the gut flora and horses need gut support from then on. It happens in people, too.

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    1. Yes, I think I'll just keep her on them. She's on one that the vet recommends so that's a good start.

      She actually never was on antibiotics during her hospital stay for that very reason. They really prefer not to put them on antibiotics since it can cause the very problem they may help.

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